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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 11:48:18 GMT -5
Guys, this has been on my mind all week! I've had some strange things happening. Before we begin this, I want you to know I have been experimenting with my psy-ence experiments. I would like to astrally project, I'd like to see and speak to spirits. You see, I feel this is something I'm supposed to do. But through all of my experiments, I had no idea it would be like this!!
This weekend I had a strange dream. I awoke feeling disoriented and sad. The dream kept coming into my head but I couldn't pull any individual images out of the mass of them. It's either the images come all at once on top of each other, or so quickly in succession that I can't pick them out of each other. The first image I was able to pick out of the tangle, was that of a girl. A girl with long dark hair, dark sparkling eyes with long lashes. She seemed to be looking back over her shoulder and was running/being chased by something, or running/afraid of something behind her. I could almost feel the fear she had. I kept thinking about the dream and the girl and I just knew it had something to do with my message board. I knew it had to do with one person in particular, for the girl looked like her, and I almost mistook it for her, but there was something different about THIS girl.
I kept coming back to it and coming back to the board. There was a post she had made about her sister, her, her old room and a cousin. As soon as I began reading it, I felt as if I could sense something not so good. I asked her for more information, when she gave it, something fit into place. I asked her what her cousin looked like and left a description of the girl I had seen in my dreams. She said I had described her cousin, and offered to send me a pic so I could see if it was the same girl. I can't tell you how I felt when I opened that pic, but just thinking about it, raises the goosebumps all over again, put it that way. It is the same girl!! Definitely and without question, it is the same girl.
This girl, I learned, is dead. She was murdered in 1991. What happened was, she got involved with a cult, they killed her to raise a demon. Another person, a male, I'm not sure but I think also a cousin, tried to stop them from murdering her. They beat him to death, took him to a lake, dumped his body there, then took the dead girl to the police station, and told them she'd drowned while trying to save the person who they dumped in the lake because he was drowning. She was not wet, she had long, I mean long, hair, past her butt, and it wasn't wet! Hair that long doesn't dry in a matter of minutes. My hair is only one third of the way down my back and takes hours to dry, yet these deaths were ruled as drownings. Both of them!!!
So I'm pulling images out of this mess. Some of them, I can't recognize enough to explain. They are streets, lined with nice houses, trees, etc, that I've never seen before, I don't know where they are. But one image, I could make out. It is a very dark place. I'm low to the ground or something because my point of view seems to be low like I'm on the ground, or crawling, possibly?? What I can see is there is a large area, maybe a parking lot or something, there are orange (street?) lights all around the perimeter. I can see the tops of trees on one side. I think, but don't know for sure, that there is water there, but I don't mention it, I'm not sure enough, and I didn't see it with my eyes, or vision, or whatever this is. I sense there are others around me, but still not sure, so I don't mention it. I asked if this rang any bells to her. She said loud and clear. She tells me this is the place where they dumped the helping person in the lake. This is where they took her from and went to the police station. They shot out the lights in the lot, so only the perimeter lights were on, explaining the darkness within the area.
Alright, so I'm a freak, and for some reaon, some dead chick has visited me in my dreams. There is more that has come but I'm going to wait. I have to know how you guys feel about this stuff. Can this really happen?? Why in my dreams? What do I do? There is something else attached to this girl?? They are from Kentucky, how'd she get to Mass?? Why did she know I'd feel the way I do, obligated to help?? How can I disattach whatever is attached to her? Can I free her if the people who killed her are free?? I had a feeling they were, so I asked, yes they are free, they were not convicted, the deaths were ruled as drownings. Is it because the family is working to re-open the case, that she has come seeking help?? What do I do guys?? Lildeb, I read what you posted about Gettysburg, I think you'll understand how I'm feeling! It's like even in my waking, I think about it. I'm trying desperately to pick the images apart, I want to see the killers' faces. Can I?? Where do I go for help?? I think I have a demon along with the girl. So far, I've kept him at bay, but can I make him go away too?? Like the negative energy feeder?? He's not too strong, or at least I don't think it is, those darned fools, they thought they could summon something powerful, but they aren't worthy of it. They killed her for nothing!!! Well, they got something, but I don't feel it was what they intended. And if I can help rid this girl's spirit of the demon holding her, will she be free to go? Or is she locked up in the murderers and won't be free until they pay?? Or are they paying now because the demon attacks them?? Or can I make it attack them instead?? I'm sooooooo confused, I had no idea this was what my "experiments" would lead to. Funny, I don't know what to do, but I'm not unhappy that it actually works! Well, somewhat, LOL, not like I have control, I can only dream...dream ...dream...dream......
But really, do you guys think I need help, or can this be done from my end???
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Post by newenglandlegends on Jul 27, 2006 13:24:39 GMT -5
I am confused I thought you already could see spirits etc...
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Post by newenglandlegends on Jul 27, 2006 13:34:24 GMT -5
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 13:43:27 GMT -5
Yes, I have seen ghosts before. Twice as a matter of fact, one in my house, a child spirit. The second a lady dressed in blue in an old estate home in the area. I've had dreams involving spirits that connected with me somehow, one a woman who lived during the 50's from a friend's house. That's a long story to explain, but just put it this way, I called on the phone at the wrong time, and the ghost found me somehow. I saw her life in a dream, and what had made her sad and stay behind. The other time was a quaker. I've had many premonition dreams also.
It sounds to me like you've had alot of these kinds of experiences yourself! I probably might even know you, if you're from around here, LOL! So I think you understand. I was prepared to experience things, but I thought if I practiced and learned more, I could have control over the situation, and who and what I have contact with. I never in a million years thought I'd have a dream about someone who was murdered and the perps went free. Stuff like that only happens on tv, doesn't it??
LOL, the board has language filters, LOL, I put the b*ouch word in and got the pregnant dog thing, LOLOL!! I wish I had a few more minutes to explain, but I have to bring my son to the farm for his riding lesson.
I do know that astral projection isn't the same as what the dreams are. But I've hoped that if I astrally project, that I can interact in a different way with the spirits. One thing, I know there's one spirit that I want to hug, and I think that could happen in astral realms. Not sure, but I hope! If that could happen, I could do some pretty awesome things. This is opening a whole can of worms, I'm going to have to explain better!! I'll think on it while I'm feeding apples to, and petting the new, poor abused pony, Jake!!!
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Post by newenglandlegends on Jul 27, 2006 13:59:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry i forgot about the filters just got caught up in the moment as i said and typing quickly not thinking. Good luck with Jake
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Post by Tim Weisberg on Jul 27, 2006 14:25:09 GMT -5
BITCH! There, it works now!
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Post by lildebcc on Jul 27, 2006 16:19:53 GMT -5
First thing you have to do aneaglesangel, is calm yourself down. Next, you have to learn to take whatever you dream, sense, feel, see, hear for what it's worth and let it go. If I held onto what I picked up in Gettysburg, I'd be a basket case right now.
What you have is a gift, so please don't call yourself a freak because of something like this happening; unless of course you see yourself as one, which I don't think you do.
If you pick up on something that has to do with a spirit, that event is done and gone and you can't change it, so worrying about it and making yourself anxious about it won't help. I have had out of body experiences and at first thought they were just dreams. But there is a difference; I can't explain what it is but you feel it in your gut. You just know.
I have also had vision flashes like newenglandlegends had mentioned. They don't happen often, and I'm glad about that, but I never look for them to happen or try to make them happen. They come when they come.
It's all up to you if you want to follow through with what you have found out from this experience. If you go ahead, to any degree with investigating this, just be careful. Sounds like you'd be messing with a cult that kills. Are you sure you want to get involved with that kind of stuff? Like I said, sometimes you just have to let it go - pick your battles carefully. I know you want to help this girl's spirit, but after everything you have been through, do you really want to take on another demon? And how do you know that this was not some ploy by the demon to suck you in and get a hold of you?
If it were me, I would write it all down in a journal and put it away, then forget about the whole thing, let it go and then see what happens after that.
As far as having control over the paranormal goes? I don't think so. I personally think that the whole realm of the paranormal is too unstable for any of us to ever hope to have control over. We can play and experiment with it but never control it.
>^o.o^<
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 16:30:39 GMT -5
Oh my, I can say bitch now??? Woooohoooo! LMAO!! As you can see I'm easily amused, lol!! You went to Quanapaog Rd to visit the horses!!!! Oh my, we must know each other then!!! I have been a licensed trainer since I was like 20 or 22, or something, it was sooo long ago, I can't remember, LOLOL!! But I worked on Quanapoag Rd for like 13 years!!! I must have met you!! Did you ever ride there, for if you did, you definitely knew me!!! Wow, small world. I've got to think, so I can explain this so you can understand. I understand that I have some type of skills, they are what attracts the spirits to me, I don't think it's me necessarily they are attracted to, but they can recognize the skills I have, even if I don't know how to use them. What I am searching for, is some kind of control over this. Why can't I sit down and think about it and know the answers?? Why can't I see their faces?? I've been trying so hard!! I can't identify murderers if I can't see them!! Another thing, when I see spirits' lives, or events in my mind, I can't hear a thing, I'm deaf!! So will I ever learn to control it, will I be able to search for things I want to see?? And another thing, how do I get used to it?? I've had this going on all week and couldn't let you guys know about it. I am embarassed by these things, ashamed, I wonder if everyone will think I'm off my rocker. But I know what I saw, and I know she exists, is that crazy?? I'm not even sure what I want, or if anyone can understand, but if anyone can, I figured it just might be all my spooky buddies, so here it is, LOL! I'm sort of thinking of writing a bit about it on Keith's board and see what he says about the demon. That I can't see either, but why do I know it's attached to the murdered girl??? If it is really a demon, and I can sense it, is it here in Mass with me, or is in Kentucky with the dead girl?? See, I keep finding more questions that I have no clue to answer!! I guess that's why I came here to you guys!! Any thoughts suggestions would be appreciated!! Does anyone know someone that this happens to?? Can they control it?? If so, HOW? Monday, I saw for the first time, the show "Medium" I was fascinated!!! But she can look at the pics of a crime, and dream about it. Should I try looking at her picture and see if I can MAKE myself dream of her??? See, I'm at a loss, I keep thinking of more questions, and getting less answers!! UGH!! Frustrating!!
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 16:38:05 GMT -5
Oh dear! Lildeb, you and I posted at the same time! It makes alot of sense to me what you're saying. I have tried to put it away, it's like I'm obsessed with it. I will write down what I've seen so far, and try to let it go for the time being. The demon, well I'm not sure what to do with that. I've got my house locked down tight. I also did a wicked cool cleansing and protection with my wiccan friends. It was awesome!! I'm not a wiccan, and I've never worked with a group, but it was definitely something I would like to write about once I get the chance.
After reading what you've said, I do think I will write about it on Keith's board, just to see what he says about the demon. No, I don't want one again, that's for sure!! I can keep him out and away for the time being, I'm pretty sure, but I guess I'd better get advice from the demononology expert!!
When you left Gettysburg, all the feelings and thoughts, just left?? I've been keeping myself busy to keep my mind off her, but I can't get her off my mind, and I can't help but wonder if I can help. If I can, I will, but I don't want to risk anything, either!! I'll let ya know what Keith says!
No, I guess I really don't think of myself as a freak. But we have all been raised to think people like us are freaks, so I guess I couldn't help but remind myself that I'm entering Freakville, LOLOL!!
But even as I write, I can't help but think, something has to be done for her, but what???
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Post by lildebcc on Jul 27, 2006 16:55:00 GMT -5
All the feelings didn't just leave me at Gettysburg. They followed me, but I stopped paying attention to them. It was something that happened in the past and there was nothing that I could do. We also walked around and looked at the many monuments to the different troops that fought there. When it seemed right, I would pick wild flowers and place them on the monuments and say a few quick words. With that small token, I felt that I had done my part to help.
"Monday, I saw for the first time, the show "Medium" I was fascinated!!! But she can look at the pics of a crime, and dream about it. Should I try looking at her picture and see if I can MAKE myself dream of her?" OH MY GOODNESS!! You really do want to open a can of worms don't you. Remember, that was a TV show not real life. In the TV show she had people that could 100% help her if she got into a mess, not so with you.
Maybe if you stopped trying to force things and stop trying so hard, answers will come to you. And did you ever think that maybe, just maybe she doesn't want or need your help? Just a thought.
It may sound selfish, but if my life had no woes or worries, then I would find the energy and time to help what spirits come along. However, my life is far from worry free, and I need to use my time and energies on me and the people and things that are important to me. Don't get me wrong, I was effected by what happened in Gettysburg, but I also know that I can do nothing for those spirits right now and I have to let them go.
Oh yeah, check with your Wiccan friends before you write about what they did. Some groups don't like to have their rituals written about for others to see. At least that has been my experience.
>^o.o^<
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 20:11:59 GMT -5
Hmm, your probably right! It's just hard because I know I haven't pulled apart the images yet, so I sort of have to play them in my mind. I think I've sort of decided what I should do. Just like the Quaker, I just caught him up and told him there wasn't much I could do for him and go home. I think I should tell her the same and let her know if anything comes up, I'll do my best, but I can't promise anything. I do know that it will be in the back of my mind until I sort out the pictures at least. As for any demon attached to this girl, it's not welcome here. This house is Fort Knox and it can kindly go back to the ones who summoned it. After all, they are responsible for it, so they own it don't they!
You're right, I can't force it. Just because I'm experimenting, doesn't mean I can have any control no matter how much I wish I could control it, LOL! The visions, the dreams, they come unbidden, maybe they always will. If I could gain some control, I would be happy, for then I could pick and choose what I have contact with, so I guess you can see why I'd like that! I'd find happy spirits who wanted to chat nicely that's for sure!!! Not panicky murdered souls who bombard me with images!!!
But thanks guys, it's great to have you all here to talk to!! HUGS! I'll try to take it slow from now on!
I would only tell what I experienced in my part, I'd never divulge their rituals, though it was an open ritual to be shared with outsiders, there were no secret wiccan rituals done that night!! But what's important is what I experienced myself anyways, I find it sort of strange, but in a good way, LOL!!
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Post by lildebcc on Jul 27, 2006 20:26:49 GMT -5
I have found one thing that really helps me to deal with spirits and emotions that they bring up in me sometimes.
When I sit back and think about what I have experienced, I look at it with a clear head and logical thought. When you start trying to analyze and digest something like this with emotions, you're doomed. If you let your emotions take control of your thoughts, actions, and words, you can come off sounding like a nut case, and people won't take you seriously. (been there, done that -- got the Tshirt, bumper sticker, AND the coffee cup)
I'm not saying that the emotions aren't there, but you have to put them aside so that you can make the right choices. I take this same train of thought into my ghost hunting as well. No matter what happens on an investigation, you need to stay professional and not let your emotions get the better of you. Sure would not look good in the eyes of a client.
Hmmmmmm, guess I did learn something from all those psychology classes that I took. Money well spent I guess. ;D
>^o.o^<
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 27, 2006 22:25:17 GMT -5
I don't know I think I look at the images with a clear head, and I'm calm about it. I think what bothers me most is that I can't take all the images apart to know what they are. It's like a pile of pics stacked on top of each other but you can't get them unstuck LOL! I don't think I've been too emotional on this, except for the fact that I'm wicked curious to know more. I admit to being concerned if there is a demon involved at all. I think the most confusing part for me was that it was someone who was murdered, and that the dreams for the first time have been verified for me. By seeing that pic and getting goosebumps the way I did, it was only the realization that it was really true! If you knew me better, you'd know I like to know the answers to puzzles. This seems like a bit of a puzzle to me, and I can't find all the answers, LOL!
I also think part of me believed that I've pushed this stuff out of my life so long it would never come back, or if it did, it wouldn't give me anything valuable in return that I can use. But here, I think I have something I can use. I think I will always have to question what I see, but this will at least give me a bit of trust in what I do see if it happens again. Yes, I've seen things in my dreams before, and it was sort of verified, (I described what I saw to the person having the spirit problem and it was the same apparition she'd seen in her house) but never with a picture of the person like this, and never in a murder situation like this.
What I think I see in this is a lesson to be learned. I was having trouble fitting some pieces together and now I understand a few things a bit better. I think from now on, I keep working, but I'm going to learn to trust myself a bit more. I know I belong in this field, I know I have some skills to develop, but I also know I think this is fun, so I'm going to keep having the fun I have. No pressure. I was pushing a bit hard, thinking I could figure things out. Even if I did figure things out, I'm powerless to do anything.
There ya go, another thing, I hate to feel powerless, so when I realized I was, I guess that bothered me. I didn't feel helpless when I saw the woman or the Quaker in my dreams. They were both long dead, and as far as I know, weren't murdered, so it was ok just to know they had been and leave it at that. This one, I think it bothered me a bit more, on the emotional level, just because it WASN'T someone long dead and of natural causes. So even still, you're right, being emotionally involved in any case, whether it be a real investigation, or a visit by a ghost in my dreams, I still have to be professional, and not become emotionally attached to the spirits. Though how could anyone resist a poor kid, murdered and all???
I did do what you said though, I drew some of the things I saw in my journal I use for writing. Maybe it will help. Any time I come up with one of the images, I try to verify it with my mod. At this point, it's mostly to verify what I'm seeing. That way, I think if I verify my own images, it will be that much easier for me to trust any images I see in the future. I think that's the hardest parts, LOL, my curiosity and trusting what I see!!
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Post by newenglandlegends on Jul 28, 2006 6:33:20 GMT -5
aneaglesangel I have a question for you do you think this girl may be local
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jul 28, 2006 9:39:00 GMT -5
Newengland, you'll have to come and visit the farm where my son rides then! I haven't ridden for a while, I have a problem with my spine and I've been trying to correct it. Maybe someday, I'll ride again!! But back to the farm, I'll see if I can find some pics to post for ya! They are such nice people!! It's called Wellspring Farm, and they also teach the handicapped children to ride. They have mini horses, a shetland named Jake who was abused, and four school horses for riding lessons. They have some "enchanted" woods with all these awesome wood carvings! All the horses have their own little gingerbread cottages to live in! It's just so quaint, you can't help but fall in love with the place, or the people who would take in such an abused pony in the first place!! We're there now on Mondays and Thursday afternoons, maybe some day we can catch each other over there! I know you'd love it!!
This girl is not local! I think that's part of why I was so surprised she came to me in the first place. She was the cousin of my mod and she lived in Kentucky. Last night I told her there wasn't much I could do for her, but I did promise if anything came up that I thought would help, I would. I am still picking the images out, but so far, nothing that would help at all.
As for any demon attached to her. It can go home to the people who called it! I told it to be gone and go back from where it came. I told it to leave the girl alone and go back to the people who called it. I don't know if it worked or not, but I believe I do have a choice of what I have contact with. I hope I'm right, I don't wanna wrastle with any demon!!!
But mind over matter, it will work, because I believe it will! Demons have no power over me!! In order for it to work, I have to believe it, and I do!!
Maybe one of these days, we'll all go riding together!! That would be sooo awesome!!!
Oh and don't worry, Tim was just checking the language filters for sure!! I know he would never call any of us a, well, you know!!!
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