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Post by cottonzway on Nov 3, 2006 0:29:46 GMT -5
Dr. Steven Greer. In general a popular project. The Disclosure Protect is a move done by Dr. Steven Greer that asks government to release that UFOs do indeed exist. I think Dr. Greer has put out COUNTLESS hours of government people coming clean that UFOs are from other planets. He has 168 hours total of footage. The most known footage shown is on a condensed 2 hour documentary commonly seen on Goggle. While nobody can/should question that this is a good thing there are a lot of open questions about Dr. Greer because of his involvement of C-SETI. The sheer cost of the "vectoring" of UFO crafts let alone there being a non-disclosure (from someone who runs the Disclosure Project) part about what is seen. There is no open footage of Dr. Greer vectoring in these "UFOs" in the sky. So what are everyones thoughts of the project, C-SETI, and Dr. Greer?
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Post by cottonzway on Nov 6, 2006 19:50:30 GMT -5
Bumped.
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Post by mmecurie68 on Nov 11, 2006 21:21:41 GMT -5
If you've ever seen the show "Stargate - SG-1", I think that pretty much sums up in a not unrealistic fashion how the U.S. government is going to treat and continue to treat ANY type of ETI contact and technology.
It will be considered a matter of national security to keep any technology we might have or contact we might have had or have on a black-ops, top secret, need-to-know basis.
Black ops budgets are sanctioned by Congress - but not ALL of the Congress. House and Senate Permanent Select Committees on Intelligence are the people who approve the money - 31 out of 435, 7%.
A number of the people in this exclusive club are ex-Mil, ex-DIA, ex-CIA, ex-NSA. You don't declassify ANYTHING in that community without a fight.
Do I think we (the U.S.) has stuff - yes. Do I think it's going to be revealed any time soon? Nope. Not unless somebody shows up like "Independence Day" or "War of The Worlds" and the secrecy can no longer be kept.
There are and will be legitimate scientists who have evidence and eyewitness accounts on the edges of the boundary of secrecy but until and unless U.S. intelligence wants it to get out or gets its hand forced, it's never going to be an open global academic arena.
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Post by fritzy on Mar 2, 2007 20:53:56 GMT -5
I believe and this is my own opinion from my own research into the study of UFO's which are unidentified flying objects, that the government or military and institutions associated with the government, are in fact hidding nothing concerning extraterrestrial life. The answer given to the public is that they are not deemed a security risk, and no further costly studies will be alloted to the study of them. This answer given to the public is not a lie, the government does not consider UFO's to be a security risk. The question everyone should be asking is why are they not a security risk? Not if they exist, the statistics show they do. The government is not hiding any information at all concerning extraterrestrials. Second question should be what is the government so afraid of people finding out? By allowing the extraterrestrial phenomenon to take on all aspects of a cover up, leading everyone in circles and putting out disinformation pointing to extraterrestrial visitation, and its all a smoke screen to cover something else up.
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Post by mmecurie68 on Mar 7, 2007 13:16:48 GMT -5
I'll have to disagree with you, Fritzy.
I was lucky enough to see a comprehensive presentation of Stan Gordon's work over the past 40 years with the Kecksburg PA Incident at the Mass Monster Mash (www.massmonstermash.org) last October, and see some of Matt M.'s information and evidence from his investigation of the Bentwaters UK incident.
I'll believe that governments have nothing to hide with respect to UFOs when they stop sending the military out to clean up and cart the evidence away, never to be seen again. This happened and was well-documented in both of these cases.
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Post by fritzy on Mar 10, 2007 13:49:12 GMT -5
I agree with you on the military aspect of carting things away. Kecksburg PA looking into it, Ive come to the conclusion it was a downed satellite Although no news station of the time period can come up with transcripts of the event, and John Murphys visitation by M.I.Bs or government personel which confiscated his tapes add up to a cover up of extraterrestrials. or it looks that way. Then Murphy giving a hidden tape to Stan Gorden many years later after the event, and Gorden copyied it and both sets of tapes just disappeared yes this does seem very strange indeed. Does all of this add up to a cover up of estraterrestrials? No it doesnt. Now Bentwaters this case is amazing it almost appears to be staged like Randels claims in her writings. For what reason I dont know. It still does not fully point to extraterrestrials. You can not explain a phenomenon away with another phenomenon. it just doesnt work. All though all of them are interconnected it still does not give valid proof of extraterrestrials. I am not saying some could be extraterrestrial, most are not, about 97percent are not. Now if im correct something else is taking place here and for what reason I dont know. Some know and that is the cover-up. And whom ever or what ever, is using the ETH hypothesis to do a fantastic job of hidding something other than extraterrestrial contact.
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Post by mmecurie68 on Mar 12, 2007 12:16:20 GMT -5
Well, it's certainly been speculated quite a bit that these phenomena may be related to current trans-dimensional overlap or actual time travel from the future to our "now".
I can't dismiss those theories either - it is possible, and for sure already it's been done on a sub-atomic level, sending a particle forward through a small amount of time.
There's so much we don't know about - and in every century, people claim that their way of thinking is THE way - then I always think about how the greatest minds of their day still held the belief that the solar system revolved around the earth, and that the earth was flat. Or that you got sick from airborne miasmas - not bacteria and viruses.
I do think that something is going on - whether ET or not - so many people relate these phenoms. in exactly the same manner - the stories similar or near to exactly the same - (seeing a Bigfoot, being abducted by UFOs) it's a little Manchurian Candidate-ish and may be something of an entirely different nature, and these experiences are substituted in on purpose.
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Post by fritzy on Mar 12, 2007 18:19:22 GMT -5
I have heard of the ultradimensional theory. I myself dont buy it. Although it is possible, actually anything is possible. Maybe whatever, wants certain powers to think they are capable of ultradimensional movements. I and this is just me, dont think whatever, is anymore capable of doing this than we are. Keel does make some valid points though. Then again it all could stem from the psychological aspect. We see what we want to see, or we see what is planted in our minds. I for one do believe in extraterrestrial visitation, I want to make that clear. I also believe they would either show themselves in force, or would would not make contact at all and just let this world be to evolve on its own. As far as a hybridization program with these ETs, I dont buy that either. To many available resources for them to choose from, other than to abduct people from thier homes out of thier cars and the likes, for them to perform medical experiments and gather DNA samples without being noticed. Either they are very stupid in thier methods, or its not ET's that are doing this.
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