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Post by dipdog21 on Sept 24, 2006 0:09:50 GMT -5
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Post by lildebcc on Sept 24, 2006 6:59:57 GMT -5
Interesting pictures - very consistent from so many places. Tough call as to whether or not they are UFO pictures; because, they do have a striking resemblance to the Pegasus.
>^o.o^<
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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 24, 2006 9:17:35 GMT -5
Those are pretty cool pics, but you definitely can't tell what they are exactly!! Thanks for sharing!!
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Post by Matt Moniz on Sept 24, 2006 10:04:58 GMT -5
Nice catch Dip,
These are some VERY good photos, but they are not the Pegasus. The main reason for that being that it is still being further developed and all the operational models are what is known as " In theater " or to the common civilian, operating in a war zone. I don't think we are at war with the U.K. or New York as far as I know. Second the Pegasus is a NIGHT-TIME surveillance aircraft and not used in daylight ops. What is seen in these photos is an object seen edge on with a VORTEX above and below a flat or lens shape object. These are the best photos of this kind I have seen in a long time. The upper vortex is spinning in one direction and the bottom is spinning in the other. The object would be " suspended " between the two vortex's in a null point or weightless environment. The vortex's are air/water particles in the atmosphere rotating at high speed. Some form of electro-magnetic field is at work here, but the power to generate such a force in what seems to be something the size of a box truck ( a guess on my part given the known size of other objects in the photos) has not yet been developed to my knowledge. In the photos of the object in motion show the vortex's bend ( look at the top vortex and then the bottom and draw a straight line thru the middle ) the tips of each vortex is off center from the horizontal flat object in the middle. The tip of each vortex would be a pole like a magnet and as everyone knows if you push one the other will move in the opposite direction. This means that the field that is around the object will move in the direction of the tilt. The more power you put to the field, the faster it would go in any given direction with almost no limit to speed other than the power supplied to the field. If you wanted to go up add more power to one vortex and less to the other for down etc. etc. and tilt the pole in the direction of forward travel you wished to go. There is NOTHING in nature that has two vortex's like this. It is like two funnel clouds ( or a tornado going down and one going up) at the same time. You don't need to be a scientist to know thats not natural. One other thing about these vortex's is if the power is modulated in the right frequencies, it can cause the vortex's to GLOW from exciting the atoms in the vortex into a plasma state. I use the same principles every day at work in some of the instruments I have worked with. If you "tune" the vortex's right, you can bend light and make it invisible to the naked eye. I am going to look into these photos more and get back to you folks on what else I find. Thanks again Dip, good job.
Matt M
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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 25, 2006 8:25:53 GMT -5
Wow! I had no idea! Vortexes!! I'm fascinated now, I can't wait to hear more about this! I thought maybe they were pics taken with the wrong exposure or something, but vortexes, I never even thought!! Well, I'm not much of a UFO person either, though my son was switched at birth by aliens.....
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Post by Matt Moniz on Sept 25, 2006 12:31:17 GMT -5
I have vast knowledge on the subject of UFOs and have worked firsthand on some of the most famous cases. In my opinion it is the hardest part of the paranormal to study. Ghost-hunting is easy by comparison and far less dangerous, that I have found in all my years of looking into the paranormal. I say this because, I have dealt with negative spirits (some quite nasty ones) and have been pushed, slapped, scratched and had objects tossed at me, and yes that is scary. But ghosts/spirits don't brake into your house and steal samples and research and hold a GUN to you and tell you to back off and kill your friends because your looking into them. These pics are very good, because it clearly shows the vortex's that are reported by countless people over the years. These vortex are the means used by "craft" to move about in our atmosphere and beyond. I am working on compiling other pics that I know of that show the same or close to the same thing as these photos and will put them up on the board when I can. I hope that most of the people that have seen the pics on that link can see what I do. (I know some people can't or won't to be more accurate but thats OK) Some people have confused the vortex with wings, but that is not the case, as wings are symmetrical (look the same) and the photos clearly show that these "forms" are not alike (they are close but not exact even if you take into account the angle of the pic) and that rules out wings because it would cause a plane to crash due to uneven drag on the control surfaces.(basic aerodynamics) I have shown these pics to a few friends and they all saw it right off the bat and agree with my conclusion. I am working with a few other scientists on this and we will try to do our best to let the rest of you know what we find out. I would like to know if the rest of you see what I do and if you see more.
Matt M.
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Post by cottonzway on Sept 25, 2006 13:03:29 GMT -5
Having somone/thing holding a gun at you for this stuff has to be really upsetting. Wow. I did see this pic a few days ago and it is quite intersting. The one thing that is odd is it seems to be taken from up in the air yet it isn't through a window. It's not point up at the clouds but kind of across at clouds. It sure is an odd shape.
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Post by Matt Moniz on Sept 25, 2006 13:25:00 GMT -5
Well the gun( 0.50 cal dessert eagle flat-black finish) was held by guys in suits (darkgrey -not the famous black) while sitting in a dark blue1995 Ford LTD with G12 plates registered to undisclosed agency in D.C., and I am fairly sure they were human. I thought that stuff like that only happened in the movies until it ACTUALLY happened to me. I have found out that it is far more common than people are lead to believe. The photo you are talking about, I think was taken from a plane, and if you look close at it, you can see the clouds thru the edges. (ruling out them being wings)
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Post by cottonzway on Sept 25, 2006 13:49:44 GMT -5
Now that is scary! It would make a lot of people stop right then and there. It would make others push it even further because you know you are on the right path. You chose the second. Takes guts Matt.
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Post by Matt Moniz on Sept 25, 2006 13:57:46 GMT -5
Or no brains, or both, either way I am still here and still at it. I did lay low for a few years and have just gotten back into the "game" as it be. I just hope people are careful and keep an eye out, because this stuff really does happen. You don't get this kinda thing hunting ghosts. Kinda why I'm playing in that kiddie pool of the paranormal for now.
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Post by cottonzway on Sept 25, 2006 14:10:08 GMT -5
Yeah I haven't gotten to much into UFOs in terms of outside of my computer or library. I love reading and watching about them. I haven't gotten to the stage of looking myself yet. Not so much in fear of those types of men but lack of getting "off the ground" in my area. I don't even know how to start as there isn't anyone around me (in terms of a group) that is close enough to even meet with.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 25, 2006 15:57:49 GMT -5
Hmm, do the vortexes have something to do with centrifugal force?? I don't know why, but I had this weird dream a long time ago. Ever since, I've wondered if spacecrafts use centrifugal force somehow to fly?? I know, I'm weird!!! I just find it so interesting that those are vortexes and not bad shots of a plane with wings!!
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Post by mmecurie68 on Sept 29, 2006 19:48:35 GMT -5
Reminds me of stir bars/stir plates but it would have to be in a reverse configuration to generate the "upside-down" vortices - maybe small nuclear-power (or dilithium crystal - LOL) sources for the stir bar/plate generators above and below? Would there be enough of a magnetic field to keep the vortex generating magnets in place above and below the "craft" without too much "structure" in between? Modulate the power output, you modulate the vortices, independently of each other... Can we order those from Fisher? (Translation for the non- lab geeks: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stir_bar) |
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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 30, 2006 9:01:08 GMT -5
Hmm, but the stir bar produces heat?? I don't know, are these UFO's producing heat to get their propulsion?? But the spinning magnetized bar would create centrifugal force, hmmm. I don't know why I'm so stuck on this centrifugal force. Hmmmmmmm!!!
I used to be a roller skater. Now it's easy to see why an ice skater can spin so fast. As they spin, they melt the ice with friction and then it makes the blade slide. But with a roller skater you have to get an edge, then position your body properly, as you bring your extremities in, you can spin faster and faster, I swear, with the right edge and positioning, you could spin forever. I think this is how I may have gotten the idea of centrifugal force being a huge element in UFO's?? Make any sense to you real scientists???
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Post by fritzy on Sept 30, 2006 20:02:03 GMT -5
Nice photos. Did anyone hear a sonic boom while taking these photos, What ever it is, it traveling at a high rate of speed, and the mach stem can be seen. nice photos.
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