camilla
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INCUBUS
Feb 8, 2007 16:22:30 GMT -5
Post by camilla on Feb 8, 2007 16:22:30 GMT -5
Hey everybody! ;DIs there anybody here who has expirienced an icubus attac?And what did that feel like? I have totally been hung up i incubus and succubus theories lately, but i have nobody to talk to about them! I need answeres.. [/color][/b]
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INCUBUS
Feb 8, 2007 17:24:04 GMT -5
Post by aneaglesangel on Feb 8, 2007 17:24:04 GMT -5
Welcome aboard first of all!! Great to have you with us! You've found a great place to share experiences and get help!
Hmm, well I did unfortunately experience the attacks of a negative energy feeder. From my reading, I see that the attacks of an NEF and an incubus are somewhat similar. The attacks I had to undergo weren't all that sexual in nature but it did like to make me feel trapped and enjoyed scaring me and holding me down. Do you think you're being attacked by an incubus? You'll have to relate some of your experiences to help start getting it all sorted out!
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camilla
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Post by camilla on Feb 9, 2007 7:23:23 GMT -5
Thank you, I love spooky southcoast so i felt this was the right place to ask Well, I have only expirienced two attacks so it havent happened so often, and thats a good thing! Well in my dreams they happend a lot, but thats nothing compared to what it feels like when im awake.. When i dream i often have sexual dreams, sometimes good sexual dreams, but other times I get raped and mutalated, those are the creepy ones.. Its usually a woman who`s there when things happend! So she often lookes like a person i know at first and then forms in to a demon later on! But when it happend when i was awake for about two weeks ago, I was paralized.. I was lying in my bed and i could se the sealing, and i was thinking "am i asleep?" Because I could not moove, i couldent do anything, i got so scared.. Then it felt like somebody was walking in my bed, not like big footsteps, but little ones, like they were tapping.. Like enjoyfull little feet.. Just tapping around in my bed! I focused really hard and got out of it, but im never going to forget it, and i hope it never happends again! Wich it probebly will if i dont do something about it, or should i just not think about it? Just block it? And sooner or later it will go away? I have no idea what to do, and not many people here at home likes to talk about things like this! So its great to have people that understand
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INCUBUS
Feb 9, 2007 11:00:36 GMT -5
Post by aneaglesangel on Feb 9, 2007 11:00:36 GMT -5
Well, people used to never talk about these things. It led to my being attacked for over 22 years by my negative energy feeder. We've got to take one step at a time here. First, how old are you? I have read alot about sleep paralysis in my days, since I thought it could be the cause of some of the problems I seemed to have. Is there anything going on in your life that could cause you to be having these nightmares? Added stress, family changes, etc?
What we've got to do is what I did about 16 years ago, and that's to educate and to rule out whatever is happening. First, we've got to rule out stressers, and we've got to rule out sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis usually starts somewhere around puberty and seldom lasts past the 20's. I'll have to see if I can find the darned awesome site I found about sleep paralysis a while ago, but seem to have lost. It had great information and graphs to show the common ages of sleep paralysis sufferers.
Sleep paralysis is more common than we realize, and negative energy feeders or incubi/succubi episodes are much rarer, but they do happen. I do suggest that you might want to read the "Angel" stories I have posted. I tell about my experiences with the negative energy feeder that plagued me for so long. I also tell about some of the ways I proved and disproved what was going on in my life. One of the main reasons I can say it was a negative energy feeder that I had was because without telling others, others experienced phenomena from this entity similar to what I experienced. In other words, I didn't tell them what happened to me, but even so, it happened to them.
If you don't mind, I'd also like to see if I can place some of the symbolism of the nightmares you've had. Sometimes I'll have a dream that I can't figure out, but looking at the symbolism it's like d'oh and ya slap your forehead, for you didn't realize you felt a certain way about things. Dreams can be fun, frightening, or windows to what's really going on inside our minds!
If you feel uncomfortable about talking about any of the episodes you've had, it's ok, I fully understand. It took me many years to be as open as I have become about the nightly assaults I underwent during those years. But I can tell ya one thing, talking about it does help, and sometimes brings answers. I don't know for sure what is going on with you, but I do know that talking about it, comparing experiences and taking one thing at a time does help!! Another thing I know, whether this is paranormal in nature, or just a natural part of your physiology, it does help to have support, and information to go on. We'll go one step at a time. I'd like to know how old you are, and when these episodes began. I'd like to know what your medical history is like, and don't be shy, part of my beginning of delving into this started with a medical and psychological evaluation. If nothing else, I knew that I had no medical problems that could cause this, and no mental ailments that could have been the cause either. It's slow and I know it can be frustrating, but we'll get to the bottom of it!! HUGS! Hang in there, help is on the way!!!
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INCUBUS
Feb 12, 2007 5:39:11 GMT -5
Post by camilla on Feb 12, 2007 5:39:11 GMT -5
Thank you som much for answering! Im 20 years old! Its easyer to talk to strangers about these problems because they dont know me the same way that my close friends do! And my close friens dont think of me this way at all! I have never had any psycic illnesses ever, but then again, i have never been at a psycyatrist either.. Maybe something is really wrong with me, i just dont know it yet! Something medical maybe! But I feel fine.. Wierd.. I´ve kept a dream journal so that I can keep track of my dreams.. Makes it easier to look back So maybe I can find a pattern! I know that many of my dreams are related to what happends in my life, but sometimes i cant find the connections.. But what is the first step now? What should I do? Seek a doctor and check my self of any kinds of illnesses first? BIG HUGS from norway..
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INCUBUS
Feb 12, 2007 10:32:24 GMT -5
Post by aneaglesangel on Feb 12, 2007 10:32:24 GMT -5
Yes it is hard to talk to people about these things! I even lived with boyfriends and didn't say anything, well, until they came to me with their stories, that is, LOL! I know it's very hard to be alone when you're facing this! I really think it's a good idea to start out medically, and psychologically. What you are doing, is ruling things out. You don't have to tell the doc that you're worried about incubus attacks, but you can tell them you question sleep paralysis and want to make sure you're healthy. The funny thing about the psychologist I saw, I ended up staying for a while after the testing and I ended up telling him the whole story. When I was through after a few months with him, he stopped, looked at me and told me I was amazing. Boy, I was never so shocked in my life, I have to admit! As I told my story I figured he was going to disregard the tests and say I was definitely cracked! I figured he'd lock me up! I'll never forget him and the fact that he was the first person I told my story to, and that he believed in me even so. I don't know if you'll end up with a confidante by going for these tests, but if it happened for me, you never know, it could happen for someone else too!
Once you've had some tests done, you've ruled out some of the possibilities. If you're medically fine and do not show signs of sleep paralysis, then we can go from there looking into the paranormal part of this. It does take a little while to take a good strong approach at this, I admit, but it is worth it in the end. I look at it this way, if someone says I'm crazy about this negative energy feeder stuff, I can say, naaaaw, I'm not crazy, and I have a test in writing to show that. In any case I've also read that crazy people don't worry about being crazy, they have better things to do, LOL!
So try to take it slow, keep a journal of the incidents when you experience this phenomena. I'm wishing that I had kept a record of the assaults I underwent. When it was happening to me, I only wanted to forget that it happened. I mostly wouldn't think of the experiences until it happened again. Until my first live-in boyfriend came to me with an experience, then I knew something just wasn't right. I hadn't looked into sleep paralysis yet, but if I had I would have known that sleep paralysis is not contagious. The boyfriends who had experiences hadn't been told about my experiences until they had their own, so it wasn't a psychic 'sympathy' event, where they felt something because they knew what happened to me.
I want you to know, any time you need to talk, feel free to contact me. I believe you can pm me here and I'll send my email for you! One thing I know from my experiences, these things are quite rare. But even so, if someone is going through it, they don't have to face it alone. I'd like to make sure of that!!! I know exactly how frightening it can be, and it would make me happy to know that others who experience this, don't have to do it alone!
Good luck hon, keep me posted on how you're doing! If you like, you can use this site to help you log the new experiences. It would help us to help you if we can read your experiences! But hang in there, and when you're afraid, remember, you're not alone with this!!
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INCUBUS
Feb 12, 2007 10:45:57 GMT -5
Post by lildebcc on Feb 12, 2007 10:45:57 GMT -5
Hi, I have had experiences with this as well. However, one time it turned out to be nothing by me being in a Hypnagogic state. The other time, I am not sure what it was. Although, at the time, I was doing research on Shadow People, for a presentation. If you go back into the message board, I am sure you can find all the chatter about Shadow People and my story there; check that out. I do not want to bore people with repeating my story again here. The hypnagogic state is something worth investigating too. Sometimes that is all it is, and we are not being attacked by anything. I am not saying that you did not have an experience with an incubus, but before jumping to conclusions, it is best to look at all the options; even going as far as seeing what was going on in your life at the time. The following is a bit long, but worth the time and space here. The link to where I got this information is at the bottom. "Sleep paralysis, or more properly, sleep paralysis with hypnagogic and hypnopompic hallucinations have been singled out as a particularly likely source of beliefs concerning not only alien abductions, but all manner of beliefs in alternative realities and otherworldly creatures. Sleep paralysis is a condition in which someone, most often lying in a supine position, about to drop off to sleep, or just upon waking from sleep realizes that s/he is unable to move, or speak, or cry out. This may last a few seconds or several moments, occasionally longer. People frequently report feeling a "presence" that is often described as malevolent, threatening, or evil. An intense sense of dread and terror is very common. The presence is likely to be vaguely felt or sensed just out of sight but thought to be watching or monitoring, often with intense interest, sometimes standing by, or sitting on, the bed. On some occasions the presence may attack, strangling and exerting crushing pressure on the chest. People also report auditory, visual, proprioceptive, and tactile hallucinations, as well as floating sensations and out-of-body experiences (Hufford, 1982). These various sensory experiences have been referred to collectively as hypnagogic and hypnopompic experiences (HHEs). People frequently try, unsuccessfully, to cry out. After seconds or minutes one feels suddenly released from the paralysis, but may be left with a lingering anxiety. Extreme effort to move may even produce phantom movements in which there is proprioceptive feedback of movement that conflicts with visual disconfirmation of any movement of the limb. People may also report severe pain in the limbs when trying to move them. Several recent surveys including our own suggest that between 25-30% of the population reports that they have experienced at least a mild form of sleep paralysis at least once and about 20-30% of these have had the experience on several occasions. A few people may have very elaborate experiences almost nightly (or many times in a night) for years. Aside from many of the very disturbing features of the experience itself (described in succeeding sections) the phenomenon is quite benign. It was thought in the past that it was a significant part of the so-called "narcoleptic tetrad", but recent surveys of non-clinical populations, such as ours, suggest that the prevalence may be as high among the general population as among diagnosed narcoleptics. " sleepdisorders.about.com/cs/hallucinations/a/terrorparalysis.htmgo to the box that says ELSEWHERE ON THE WEB and click on the 'Sleep Paralysis and Hypnagogic Experiences' link for the page with this information. >^o.o^<
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INCUBUS
Feb 12, 2007 11:37:24 GMT -5
Post by aneaglesangel on Feb 12, 2007 11:37:24 GMT -5
Nice link lildeb! I'm gonna save that in my favorites if you don't mind! Funny how often this actually does come up!!
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INCUBUS
Feb 15, 2007 2:27:24 GMT -5
Post by lildebcc on Feb 15, 2007 2:27:24 GMT -5
Ummm, save the link if you want; makes no matter to me. It is a public site after all.
A Hypnagogic state happens more often than people realize, It is easy to think of it as being a paranormal event, especially if THAT is what someone is hoping for and if they have never heard of this particular sleeping disorder.
I am willing to bet that a lot of sleeping disorders could possibly explain away a lot of supposed paranormal events if people were willing to look at these events objectively.
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INCUBUS
Feb 16, 2007 10:46:39 GMT -5
Post by aneaglesangel on Feb 16, 2007 10:46:39 GMT -5
You'd be surprised how often this comes up. One thing I've noticed during my time as a mod/admin of paranormal sites is that there are also alot of lonely people out there, who crave attention. Many times they really do believe something paranormal is happening to them, other times, they wish it was, for they want the attention it brings. But whether or not they are lonely or need attention it helps to find out good information, to learn about ruling things out and taking a good logical approach to what is happening to them.
Then we also have people out there who've experienced these sort of things that really do have a paranormal event going on. Even so, it's step one to rule out all logical explanations. Maybe some of them will be open to trying this approach and maybe some won't but you still have to give them the information and support they need. Maybe one out of every 100 or even 1000 may have a real bona fide paranormal event going on, but I do believe everyone deserves the same treatment. It's a hard approach to take, but if I could do it, I believe anyone else can too! It takes some time and patience, and a couple doc appointments, but it's the best way to go in my eyes.
Another thing that stinks in these cases sometimes is the computer crash I had last year. I had some awesome favorites and a great one was a site on sleep paralysis. I've been searching high and low for that site again and can't find it. So when I do find a site, or someone else finds a site that deals with this and gives good explanations, I try to save it so I have it for future reference. I can't even begin to count how many times this subject comes up, so it's always a good thing to have kicking around.
I also wish I could tell ya how many times I wished that it WAS sleep paralysis that plagued me during the 22 years that I experienced phenomena in the night. Or the thing that attacked two seperate boyfriends, and both my boys was a figment of my imagination. But even so, learning, educating myself, gave me the power to defeat that thing. I can't offer anyone much except my time, my heart, a bit of help and understanding, and a good website or two to help them find their way!
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INCUBUS
Feb 16, 2007 15:33:11 GMT -5
Post by lildebcc on Feb 16, 2007 15:33:11 GMT -5
Well if something is that important and you want to save it, do what I do, make a hard copy of it. That way you do not have to worry about losing the informatin on your computer.
If the information is that important, it is worth the paper, the ink, and the storage space.
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