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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 30, 2006 16:03:21 GMT -5
Without getting too personal I have to say there are things a person can be forced into. Some things are out of our control whether we like it or not.
Hmm, would a spirit with evil intentions ignore someone they didn't think they could get anywhere with? Tough one, but I think they can sense where they can feed, where they will get nothing, and when they've hit the jackpot, LOL! I also think that when it's a child, the entities are attracted by the innocence, once they gain a foothold, they stay if they can. So would they bother with something if they didn't think they could get anything from it? I couldn't say for sure, but I bet they wouldn't, there's plenty of negative things going on in this world, plenty of innocent children, I think pickings are great for them! As the population rises, it gives them more opportunities to find their prey!!
Even though I say some things you have no choice over, like being a child and getting infected with something you didn't know existed, isn't really something you had a choice over. But as you gain adulthood, and knowledge, you can fight back if need be. I wonder if that's what you mean?? But all of this is just my opinion anyway, who knows, maybe years from now if we evern learn the true nature of these entities we'll find we were all way off! LOL!!
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Post by fritzy on Sept 30, 2006 19:44:46 GMT -5
I been looking into something about this. Now for some spirits to manifest throw objects, slap people, push them, open and close windows and doors. This is a form of solidity. Now even though your eyes can not see this as being solid, or even seeing it at all, its still solid, the energy has taken form, which means its strong energy because it can bring itself to form into a solid form to throw, hit , slap, open things et. Or maybe the energy of the spirit can be seen by us all, and we just dont know it because we have been manipulated by the spirit itself from the begining. The spirt has to draw energy from someplace to manifest in a solid form the logical place would be the people that are investigateing it, or the person that is under attack. This is my point of how manipulative these things are. Also another point, if the spirit can achieve a form of being solid even though you cant see it, its vunerable also at that point in time.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Sept 30, 2006 20:10:52 GMT -5
Hmm, I'm not so sure I believe they become 'solid' to react with objects in our realm. I believe it is energy, and that energy can be invisible, but I think I can see your point, for doesn't energy too have atoms? As for not seeing them as you say, I often wonder because of an experience I had practicing seeing auras. I saw a ghost while looking at a person's aura. If I tried to look directly at the spirit with regular vision, she disappeared. I'd never been in this house before, so I didn't know there was a picture of the woman I saw up on the second floor. When I saw the picture, I recognized her because I'd just seen her ghost a few minutes before, LOL. But, when I saw her, I could ONLY see her when I was using the unfocused sort of vision you use to see auras.
So are they invisible, or can we see them only when we use the type of vision used for viewing auras? Or do they choose who they show themselves to, or is it a lack or bounty of energy that dictates when they can manifest activity?? I still don't know, but I do know that I experienced some pretty solid activity with an invisible foe. Once, to many times a year, I experienced activity. Why not many more times? Did it lack the energy to manifest? Maybe. Did it become solid to attack me? I don't think so, I never saw a thing, I think in order to be "solid", not a gas, not a fluid, you have to have some tangible substance. I don't know, but I think I bring up more questions than I have answers to. Maybe someday, we'll have evidence of what happens when a spirit manifests activity. Until then, I guess we have to keep guessing at it! I still think this is very interesting and brings up lots of ideas in my head, LOL!!
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Post by lildebcc on Oct 2, 2006 11:15:21 GMT -5
Okay, point taken about choice vs being forced. Some things are fate and can not be changed; I did not choose to have food allergies, but I have them. Now I make choices of how I let them effect my life, because I found out what my choices are.
Things happen to us all though our lives. Without the knowledge of having choices we feel forced into things, but that does not mean that our choices are not there for consideration. We just have to learn what our choices are and how we can make changes, if we want to. I know that self-esteem and all that plays into it as well. But the bottom line is, we have choices - even though we may be unaware of them at the time, we still have them.
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Post by cottonzway on Oct 2, 2006 13:24:34 GMT -5
Thank you again for all of the replies.  I’m not really asking about “fighting” in the physical form. I guess the concept of something that takes in a solid form could have that happen. I doubt that could happen though. I don’t know nearly enough about these types of things to be even able to ask that. It’s interesting but what I am talking about is all by the will of someone more then their ability to “beat up” a ghost with their human body. One thing I will go back to is the concept of fear and anger being one in the same. I don’t agree with that. It’s a concept of psych that I don’t entirely agree with. I think they are from the same family but when they are at their extremes have totally different effects on people. It’s kind of like saying my house cat and a mountain lion are the same. Sure they are both felines but are they really the same after that? I think being stone cold terrified is much different then in a pure fit of rage. I don’t think if a person really is at that stage it is something that can be “feed off” from anything. Anyone/thing evil feeds off of fear. No doubt about it. I think though once someone crosses that line from being afraid to being angry the energy is quite different. I’m talking about someone who is true at heart not afraid, not someone trying to convince themselves otherwise. At that point it’s not going to matter what an evil spirit does IMO because you truly are not going to back down. You would become malevolent at that point. I don’t think anyone likes being in the presence of someone who has ill intentions towards it. I would think that would relate to the afterlife as well. This is just an idea or concept though of course. |
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Post by lildebcc on Oct 2, 2006 17:43:35 GMT -5
Okay good points. But crossing the line from being afraid to being angry is just that, crossing a line. A line that is drawn between two emotions that are the same with subtle differences; but still the same. But, this type of discussion could go on forever. Might be a good time to just agree to disagree on this one. Psychology concepts can be like that I guess.
I would think that the mountain lion and the house cat are the same. Both felines, both predators. Granted one is bigger than the other, and one is domesticated and one is wild. Have you ever gone to one of those 'big cat' shows and watched the lions, tigers, etc? They act just like domesticated cats. Have you ever watched a pet cat on the prowl? They act just like the big jungle cats. I am sure there are some subtle differences, but they are both cats.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Oct 2, 2006 20:05:06 GMT -5
Well, I tend to agree with you on anger and fear being different, cotton. In the shamanistic books I've read and worked through, you learn to understand why you do the things you do, which in turn, is understanding the emotions that make us act.
With an evil/bad intention entity, I don't think there is much difference between fear and anger though. In lildeb's point, the fear and anger are both negative emotions. I think a good example would be one of my own experiences. In Once in a Blue Moon, the negative energy feeder tries to attack me when I have my baby in my bed with me. The best I can describe the emotion, was a primal anger, a primal need to fight for my baby, yes, maybe it was based on fear, I did have a frightful past with this entity after all. But I thrashed out with my hand and my spirit to make this thing go away. It was just as content to eat my anger as it was to feast on my fear. It lashed back out at me and threw my arm back onto the bed. I swear to you, that shoulder has never been the same since!! So anger, fear, greed, all those negative emotions you can think of, I'm sure with something evil, or that has bad intentions, it's all the same!!
I am not sure how these things can be fought. I know that I did make mine go away, but was that fighting, or was it simply making the choice not to have contact with such things? I think there are beings that can fight them, but are there any who are humans? Do angels or higher beings fight them? I don't know the answers to those questions. But I do know that if given a choice, I only want to deal with good beings and spirits, not any dark people, not any dark spirits, not any demons. I hope that by making a choice, that's all the fighting I have to do with them. But in order to fight them, I think it could only be on a spiritual level with things like that. I hope that's a bit closer to what you're looking for?? All any of us can really do is speculate and debate the issues, maybe one of these days, we'll get lucky and figure a thing or two out. But then again, it may also be years before we find answers, if any at all! I still think this was a great topic, we discussed many very good points!! That's why I love you guys, ya keep me thinking!!
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Post by lildebcc on Oct 3, 2006 15:39:02 GMT -5
Gee, all these questions. Too bad you did not make it to Rosemary Ellen Guiley's presentation. Those would have been good questions to ask her.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Oct 3, 2006 15:57:06 GMT -5
I would have gone, but I had to replace the axle in my car. Some stupid bugger that couldn't even see over his dashboard friggin' ran a stop sign, so I hit the curb avoiding him. Blew my axle, and I don't think he even ever saw me!! I've been waiting a while just to have the mechanic in my shop have time to get to it. I can and do as much work as I can on my own, but I won't mess with my suspension, LOL!! I've got a few small things to do to my car and she'll be ready to make a long trip!
I thought Rosemary was great on the show, I bet she was even better in person!! You'll have to keep us posted on when she'll be with you guys again!!
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Post by lildebcc on Oct 4, 2006 10:48:57 GMT -5
She was here all weekend. We had a great time showing her all the interesting places in the New England area. It was a lot of fun.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Oct 4, 2006 17:57:01 GMT -5
That must have been a blast!! Well, I'm almost done with my car, at least!! There are some good points to working in a body shop, I get cheap parts, but it's always my car last on the repair line, LOL!! But hell, I don't really have to pay for the labor, so I can't really complain! I'm hoping that if I have to wait any longer, it's not past this weekend!!! UGH!!
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Post by lildebcc on Oct 30, 2006 11:52:09 GMT -5
We are hoping that Rosemary will be down again to visit. But aside from me putting a blurb in here, people can always check CAIPRS website or Rosemary's website www.visionaryliving.com if they are interested. >^o.o^< |
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