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Post by averagejoe on Jan 3, 2008 18:16:07 GMT -5
Hi everyone I was wondering if there has ever been a show about Polygraph Testing. How much it would benefit the credibility of the paranormal field. So many people are coming forward with claims of the paranormal that polygraph testing would be a good way of weeding out the fibbers or loon balls. Also the ones that I'm worried about the most. Parents that claim their children have had demon encounters or are seeing ghosts. ( At the end of the show say that their books are available on amazon.com.) I understand that its expensive, and not 100% accurate (but pretty close if the right questions are asked.) There has to be someone in this field that knows someone that does this testing. Maybe if Spooky Southcoast can get together with other paranormal groups and paranormal radio stations, we can get enough listener donations to get some of these people polygraphed. If these people deny our request for them to take a test, it just shows who is in this field for personal gain or just attention or fame. Have a "listener call in show". Ask folks who they would like most to get the test. Make a list of names, see how much it would cost to get each person tested at least 2 times each. Ask for donations. Get the top few people on the list tested. If the people having these experiences are telling the truth they have nothing to lose with these tests. Showing that these people are not lying could greatly help this field gain the credibility that it so truly needs. Just a thought.
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jan 5, 2008 9:57:16 GMT -5
I think what I'm doing is better than a polygraph test. I'm looking for the cause of what I've experienced. I've recently had an MRI of my brain, that shows no abnormalities. I'm looking for a sleep study to participate in.
I think I've been a bit frustrated lately. I recently watched a Hauntings Radio show in which they had someone on that had experienced negative entity activity. I watched in the chatroom and defended this person as people tore him up. I didn't think it was pretty and made me think. I'm writing a book about my experiences, and the whole scene in that chat made me rethink a few things. But yes, usually there is money involved when someone writes a book, people seem to think it's a fortune, but usually unless you've got a major bestselling novel it boils down to a few thousand bucks. Not really enough to come under attack such as one does when they admit negative entity involvement in their lives.
One thing I've noticed is that these people genuinely want to help people. They risk their peace and happiness admitting what happened to them and I call that brave. But the fact remains that people are out there who experience this stuff and to me, they're important. To me, if I share and I can help just one person to get help, then I've done something worth doing.
I think by searching for answers in the testing I'm doing, which a new theory has finally caught up to my thinking. Medical science is linking REAL paranormal activity with certain disorders, among them, mental, sleep, seizure and spinal disorders. I happen to have spinal disorder, an extremely rare one. If I have to go to the ER, I have to actually explain to the doctor what exactly Klippelfiel Syndrome is. Very rare spinal disorder=REAL paranormal activity? Yes, I think so, so I'm looking for the proof.
Once my book is finished I'm hoping that I've done my job right. I'm a credible person, I've even been called so in court, when I used to handle small claims suits from my body shop, and evictions. I hope that by using the style I've decided on that I give you a clear account of events in my life, while also giving you scientific data about the topics included. Now inside my story there is a heartwarming part that I think teaches that love never really dies, but I bet any money I'll be under attack because I admit to negative entity activity. Ya know what, I don't care!! If even one person can get help because of words I've written, then I've done what I set out to do, which is what most people who take the chance on writing books of this nature do, and that is really, to help others.
Maybe no one believes it, maybe all people believe that others have a material motive behind these stories, maybe some even do, but the people I've met are good people who I believe do want to help others. If it takes doing a polygraph test to be credible, I'd do that too. I have nothing to hide, and I know I'm telling the truth, and I hope if I did it, it would bring the field forward in this part of things, once and for all.
But one note, is won't bring the whack jobs out to light in my opinion. If you're mentally ill, and you really believe something happened (whether it did or didn't) then they wouldn't be lying when answering the questions would they?
So to me, a polygraph isn't really the most useful tool in this case, but learning, research, doing the right tests, and perserverence in a world that doesn't want to believe that these terrible things really do happen.
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Post by averagejoe on Jan 7, 2008 4:53:03 GMT -5
Hi, ;D
Very well said and I completely understand your point. What your doing is an awesome step in helping people and we all highly respect you for what you went through and what your putting yourself through.
The whole book comment I hope you can understand that I didn't mean, if you write a book your a fraud or just want to make money. I just really want this field to have more credibility and was just putting this out there as another tool to maybe get a little more credibility . I understand there are folks out there that some very bad things do happen to. If it is real or just in the mind these people need help. And for them to go online and grab a book to help ease them through their negative experiences would be a great thing.
There are people out there in this field for the wrong reasons we all know that. And having them give out information that is made up or written very negligently, can make what some of these people are going through a whole lot harder for them.
If we can just show the scientific field that yes these people aren't making this stuff up, maybe we can get more people interested in this subject and get people help.
I'm not saying give everyone in this field tests. Mainly just the ones higher on the totem pole like Jason and Grant or some of sensitives like Chris Fleming, who we all know are awesome people . It could give this field a awesome boost. ;D
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Post by aneaglesangel on Jan 7, 2008 8:35:34 GMT -5
I have to agree with you there! It is a crying shame that people fake evidence out there, or lie about their experiences. I think most of them are not truly in the field, or dedicated like some of the professionals out there. People out there get a kick out of photoshopping a picture and putting it up as evidence. They hurt everyone's credibility in the field.
I'm not sure a polygraph test would help, since some people will never believe, well, maybe unless they have an experience with the paranormal, and then sometimes, even then they won't believe. But I do see a trend happening in the last few years. When I first started researching the paranormal, years ago, it was almost like a dirty secret. There weren't really any investigation teams to be heard of. They were out there, but they weren't mainstream like they are now. Now there are more investigation teams than you can shake a stick at. As long as we all keep working together for the same end, I think things will get better for the field as a whole.
Most of the teams out there are highly respectable, good people who want to help others. To me, the ones who do their job with others safety and well-being in mind are doing what we all set out to do, and they bring the field forward every time they step out into the field and fire up their equipment. For those others, who fake evidence, they are detrimental to the field. I believe as time and hard work bring the field forward, they will be weeded out. Yes, they are hurting us now, but as awareness and information is brought to the public, I think and hope, they will be left in the dust.
If Spooky ever does do a polygraph episode, I'll volunteer for ya! I do think credibility is important to us all, and if a few can come forward and who that we are actually telling the truth, maybe it would be a good thing. Though I think it's like that saying, "You can't please all of the people, all of the time" it's more like, "You can't make all of the people believe, all of the time."
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