Faye Musselman - awesome woman!

[tjames03]

LOVE Faye Musselman! She really has her facts, etc., straight.

Even in the middle '90's when "Unsolved Mysteries" did a Lizzie Borden segment, I even thought that something was 'not quite right' between Andrew and Lizzie.

The brutality of his murder plainly stated that whomever killed him REALLY had the *ss with him!!!!

[aneaglesangel]

Aw, you mean there WAS a show last night, and it had to do with Lizzie Borden? Argh! Why couldn't I get my player to work last night? I figured there was no show last night for some reason, and I miss one on one of my favorite ghosts!? Guess I'll have to wait for the podcast to hear this one.

Thanks for the head's up! I'll probably have more to say after I hear this! Ya know I love Lizzie!

[blackdove99]

The Lizzie Borden episode was August 7th. Very interesting show- Faye Musselman is a great guest and knows her stuff!

Not sure if theer was an episode on August 14th. Nothing's been posted....

[aneaglesangel]

Ooh, I definitely missed that one! That was my birthday weekend. I went up to the Cape, where my oldest son lives and we went out on his boat. It was such a beautiful night. The skies were so clear you could see the Milky Way and meteorites kept shooting across the sky. There was a funny little incident. We had never been to this place before, my son just moved to a new area and he's learning the new spots and how the fishing is around the area. It was really shallow and at some points my younger son had to get out to pull us, LOL! Finally we found water deep enough to start his engine back up again, but he was having trouble seeing past us. He asks, "What is that up ahead?" So we turn around and look. "LAND!!!" We all shout. Luckily he had enough time to steer us away, but it was sort of funny and if you could have seen our faces, you would have died laughing, LOL! But all in all, I'd say that was a birthday weekend, and one night, I'll never forget!

I did see this show up on the archives, so I'll have to try to find the time to listen to it! We've been so busy here in Whaling City Ghosts that I've hardly had a chance to breathe lately, LOL! But very interesting stuff and I'm hoping that Matt can help me out with something that I've discovered may be a link for a couple of haunts I'm working on. I hope it all pans out.

Hope you have a great weekend hon, and thanks for the head's up!

[momentofzen]

Hey there! I listened to this show twice. I also think Faye knows her stuff, to an extent. She is great on the radio, but her talk about the incest is not believable. Her proof, she says, is the saying of some descendent of the Gardner family and that is supported by what the psychics are saying? That's not proof. That is gossip. There is a difference you know! This NEW info is total BS in my opinion. Junk science. Bad scholarship. Proof is documented. Proof is found in primary sources. Proof is not found in anecdotes.

[aneaglesangel]

My team just recently started using a psychic. So far she's quite good. During an investigation I take into account what she's saying she feels. I use what she's saying to help me frame questions to the spirits. The last investigation she was very accurate, and the EVP's that I got matched what she had said. I don't have the full report, but my new researcher says a large percentage of the EVP's actually have to do with the history of the house. So to me, working with a psychic is a good thing, but you do have to try to verify what they're saying, and try to think of ways to help verify it. A psychic is not always accurate, so it is important to try to prove/disprove what they're saying. I don't think it should be taken as law that they are always right. They are only human and they do make mistakes. I have to agree with you on that. I am very excited about having our own psychic on the team, but I also consider it experimentation. So in other words, we have to check out what our psychic says, and see if we can verify it. Of course it does help when the ghosts help!

[momentofzen]

I am very good friends with an expert EVP guy. He does his work, then looks to history to see if the things he finds are verifiable. I respect his work because he does his investigations this way. He has no preconceived ideas, no strong sense of history beforehand that may skew his thoughts about the results.

This investigation by Faye is different than this. She says she "heard" the incest story from a Gardner descendent, not the person who told the person, but the person who told the person who told the person. And then, because some psychics have claimed that they feel there was incest, this is used as "proof positive," as she says, that what the thrice removed storyteller is telling her is proof. Balderdash, I say. You can only say you have a possible insight to the story, based on these two things. Not that you now have proof. That is my only argument.

[aneaglesangel]

I can understand that. Most of the houses we go into, we don't know all that much about. Usually it takes a bit of time to do research on the history of a place, and why go through all that if you haven't investigated and seen if there is any activity for yourself? Sometimes it's hard to go in blind, for you've already heard of the place, such as a place like Lizzie Bordens's, everyone knows there was an ax murder there. Now to me, the he said/she said stuff isn't really good enough for evidence. If my psychic says something, I can't really call it solid until I hear the audio evidence, and see the history of the place. But if all of them match up, well, that's pretty close to proof. During an investigation I do take into account what the psychic is saying, and I do use it to help with my audio work questions, and approach. A couple examples of how her psychic senses and my audio work panned out is this. At one point in my audio, I'm coming up to the third floor, Tara, the psychic, approaches me and tells me she hears a woman screaming. When I went over the audio, I catch the woman screaming that she told me about, right before she even tells me. At another time, she told me that the woman was in distress for some reason. In my recording you hear me ask why the woman is in distress, the spirit whispers, "Patrick...Patrick"! So we don't know yet who Patrick is, unless my researcher has found him and I just don't know why yet, but there are other EVP's that I got because I listened to my psychic. So at times it is best to listen to your psychic and use what they tell you to help frame your questions and ideas on how to help the spirits to manifest.

But I do have to say a psychic is never 100% accurate. They can make mistakes, they can have off days. Now the reason I put a psychic on my team is because I'm interested in the psychic senses and it's sort of a test of her skills in a way. But nothing she says becomes a fact until I have other evidence that correlates to what she said. It does seem strange to me that someone would take a psychic's word as law without any other proof, and that hearsay would be considered evidence. I guess it's one of those "each to his own" type situations. I do like to observe how other teams do their investigations, but I do stick to my own methods. Maybe it works for her, but I know for me, I need more evidence to consider what a psychic says as proof.

[momentofzen]

You sound like an entirely reasonable person. Your approach is well considered and you don't just depend on one part of the story or investigation as overriding. I used to really like Most Haunted, but really it was all about the accents. . . . GB could be literally crawling with spirits, but that show always seems to get knocks and stuff thrown when they ask. But when the lights go out the screaming starts.

Have you ever been terrified by one of your investigations?

[aneaglesangel]

Hmm, terrified on an investigation. No, I'd have to say not. But then again, I have a long history of paranormal phenomena going on around me. So I'd say it's sort of hard to terrify me. I also feel that I have to set an example for female investigators. If I let my panties get all up in a bunch, I'd make a bad impression, and I don't want to do that.

I will admit there was once an EVP that terrified me. It was a case where a child was involved and the EVP basically threatened the baby in an awful way. Now usually I can do EVP work right up until bedtime, and then go to sleep and not have any of the voices of the dead phase me. But in that case, it really upset me, made me sick to my stomach and kept me up for a while that night. When I heard that, along with the names myself and my team members were being called, I knew I had to call in for a blessing and some demonologists.

After so many years of activity in my own life, and so many hours in the field, it's hard to get scared. Actually we seem to get all excited when things happen. I've heard my name many times in EVP's so it doesn't give me the heebie jeebies anymore. Sometimes things do get intense, like the last investigation my team was on. A spirit apparently was trying to interact with me and I began tingling intensely (which is what happens when a ghost gets close to me) and at the very same time, the K2 meter red-lined. It was so intense that I had to ask the spirit to back off, which it did. What was amazing about this investigation was the amount of interactive EVP and how accurate the new team psychic was. A lot of what she told me as we were investigating did show up in the evidence.

Andrew Lake, who I'm sure you've heard of, he's been on the show a few times, said, "A paranormal investigator without a psychic is just a guy running around with an EMF meter." I can see what he meant now and I'm glad I took the psychic on. It should get really interesting, or at least, that's how I see it!

Have you ever visited any haunted places? I'd be interested to know how you felt about them, and what your take was on the haunted part of the location.