This ticks me off!!!

[aneaglesangel]

We all know I have been captured by the spirits of King Philip's War. Anyone who speaks with me about this subject knows how I get. The fiery eyes, the passion that fills my words. Somehow, when I heard the spirits of the Wampanoags call me keetompoag, I became one of them. Now when I walk in their places, I feel their spirits walking with me, just as I did as a child. Their drums beat in my head and their voices echo in my heart.

Search as I might, I find little more about the people than convoluted reports made by "historians." Prejudice and hatred did more to lose the essence of these people than the war ever did. For you see, I dig deeper into this lost war every day. I read, read, read, I write, write, write, and still the very soul of what I'm looking for is illusive. I have read of the proud and brave Metacomet as a "naked savage lying dead in the mud" and as an "unreasoning and cruel barbarian." I have not once read of Philip/Metacomet as a father, a brother, a husband. I can not tell you how angry I feel at times when I read the words of so called "historians" who seem to have a very one sided and prejudiced view of someone we barely knew, let alone gave the privilege of "justice."

Here are two accounts that I have read on the subject of Philip/Metacomet. One, the words of a "historian" grated on me like rough stone. I wanted to meet the man who so defamed a person that history does not really even know. Were they there with him as he agonized over his brother's death, but also had to take up his father, and brothers shoes when it occurred? Did they know what it was like to walk away when his own wife and son were captured? I think that inside himself, Metacomet knew he could never win, but I'm sure he at least hoped somehow to save his wife and child. Or maybe at this time, he knew they were all doomed to be executed by the English and so returned to Mount Hope, the royal seat of his family to die? I sort of believe that he knew what was coming, and knew that at this point the only choice left was to rebel, and to fight until his last breath? Even if it led to his being shot in the back by his own kind? In the beginning, I believe Metacomet hoped that he could preserve his tribe's way of life. But by the end, he knew there would be no quarter.

The second I think is a bit more open hearted. It is written by a man who actually met with Metacomet and writes of that meeting. Metacomet is represented as a fair speaking person. He speaks English with the settlers and states his grievances, which seem to be fair grievances to me. The English, in my eyes, have taken on some pretty unfair business practices and Philip addresses them and asks for justice in these matters.

I ask you to read them for yourself. I think you'll see what a convoluted trail it is following this war. An even more lost trail following the people that called themselves, "The People of the Morning Light." I hope that as I dig deeper into these people, that I can find more honest views of these people, rather than reports made by so called "historians" who saw the facts, but never stopped to read them more clearly.

I think as you read the first piece, by an unknown author, it's a sails pdf file that I've got with no further information that I can find on who wrote it, you'll call the author a few choice names. Just as I did!


First "piece." It's a piece of something all right, I'm just too much of a lady to say what exactly....

Excerpts from www.sailsinc.org/Durfee/phillips1-5.pdf

"These men were delving ,
for the truth, -- they say that "Philip's outbreak was prompted by the vindictiveness
and caprice of an unreasoning and cruel barbarian" . No portion
of his country had been appropriated by the strangers except after the
payment of just consideration . Their Indian civilization had been enriche d
by access to conveniences hitherto unknown . The war arose because the
idle Indians demanded support without effort . It was not planned as a
redress for grievances, as is evidenced by the fact that no comprehensive
plan of campaign had been made. When Philip entered the Pocasset
swamp from Mount Hope only thirty of his men had guns, and as he left
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the swamp "his powder was almost spent" . His warriors had no store of
clothing or provisions . That the Narragansetts should plot against the
English was at no time unlikely, but they would never have yielded supremacy
in any war to Philip, nor did they so yield it . They craftily and
cunningly used Philip as the "cat's paw", as a name under which Quanopin,
Weetamoe and Canonchet, the real king-makers, sought to carry ou t
their warlike aims. In his own council Philip's wavering and vacillatin g
temperament was used to involve him in reprisals which resulted in a wa r
when no war was by him primarily intended. An Indian sachem was
supposed to express and carry out not his own will but the will of the counci l
over which he presided. Philip apparently hoped he could avoid puttin g
this will into effect . He hesitated but when reluctantly drawn in he coul d
not withdraw, he was doomed if there should be a failure, and no on e
realized that fact better than he . The real Philip was a man who clung t o
savage life and heathen superstitions ; without mental discipline or restrain t
he had shown aptitude for little except falsehood and treachery ; Goodwin
says that "a person of his coarseness, ignorance, inexperience in war, inbre d
indolence and purposelessness could not spring into a great character" ,
"that he is not known to have been personally present or to have taken activ e
part in any one of the fights of the war" . When we add to these opinions the
fact that he was such a coward as to disguise his person to escape identification;
to place his women and children between himself and danger ,
and to run to his death, abandoning to their fate chieftains such as Anawa n
and Tispaquin (see Palfrey, II, 173) and to seek his own safety rather tha n
the welfare of those who had served under his father and had pledge d
their lives to him, we complete the picture of a chieftain who is some time s
spoken of as a "king"."


This is "Easton's" account of meeting with King Philip. It is very badly spelled, for I guess it's in the original form as written by Easton. I think even he sees that the Wampanoags have some legitimate complaints.

From: penelope.uchicago.edu/Thayer/E/Gazetteer/Places/America/United_States/_Topics/history/_Texts/HOUDOC/Eastons_Relation*.html

But Philip charged it to be disonestly in us to put of the Hering to iust Complaints, therefore we p12consented to hear them. Thay said thay had bine the first in doing Good to the English, and the English the first in doing Rong; said when the English first came, their King's Father was as a great Man, and the English as a littell Child;16 he constrained other Indians from ronging the English, and gave them Corn and showed them how to plant, and was free to do them ani Good, and had let them have a 100 Times more Land than now the King had for his own Peopell. But ther King's Brother, when he was King, came miserably to dy by being forced to Court, as they judge p13poysoned.17 And another Greavance was, if 20 of there onest Indiandº testfieid that a Englishman had dun them Rong, it was as nothing; and if but one of their worst Indians testified against any Indian or ther King, when it pleased the English it was sufitiant. Another Grievance was, when their King sold Land, the English wold say, it was more than they agreed to, and a Writing must be prove against all them, and sum of their Kings had dun Rong to sell so much. He left his Peopell none, and sum being given to Drunknes the English made them p14drunk and then cheated them in Bargains, but now ther Kings wear forwarned not for to part with Land, for nothing in Cumparison to the Value thereof. Now home the English had owned for King or Queen, they wold disinheret, and make another King that wold give or sell them these Lands; that now, they had no Hopes left to kepe ani Land. Another Grievance, the English Catell and Horses still incresed; that when thay removed 30 Mill from where English had ani thing to do, thay could not kepe ther Corn from being p15spoyled, thay never being iused to fence, and thoft when the English boft Land of them thay wold have kept their Catell upon ther owne Land. Another Grievance, the English were so eager to sell the Indians Lickers, yt most of the Indians spent all in Drynknes, and then raueved upon the sober Indians, and thay did believe often did hurt the English Catell, and ther King could not prevent it.

We knew before, these were their grand Complaints, but then only we indevered to persuaid yt all Cumplaints might be righted without War, but could have no other Answer but that thay had not heard of that Way for the Governor of Yorke and an Indian King to have the Hearing of it. We had Case to think in yt had bine tendered it wold have bine acsepted. We indevered yt however thay should lay doune the War, for the English wear to strong for them; thay said, then the English should do to them as they did when thay wear to strong for the English.

So can you see why I get ticked??

[aneaglesangel]

I'm like what I'm reading on the Iroquois, which is the tribe I come from. I hope I can find more like these, about the Wampanoags, though. It is refreshing to read an honest and unbiased account of a tribe though!!!

From: www.accessgenealogy.com/native/legends/customs.htm

In discussing Indian character, writers have been too prone to indulge in vulgar prejudice and passionate exaggeration, instead of the candid temper of the true philosopher. They have not sufficiently considered the peculiar circumstance in which the Indians have been placed, and the peculiar principles under which they having been educated. No being acts more rigidly from rule than the Indians, his whole conduct is regulated according to some general maxims early implanted in his mind. The moral laws which govern him are few, but he conforms to them all. The white man abounds in laws and religion, morals, and manners, but how many of them does he violate. In their intercourse with the Indians the white people were continually trampling upon their religion and their sacred rights. They were expected to look merely on while the graves of their fathers were robbed of their treasures, and the bones of their fathers were left to bleach upon the fields. And when exasperated by the brutality of their conquerors, and driven to deeds of vengeance, there was very little appreciation of the motives which influenced them, and no attempt was made to palliate their cruelties......

.....Their respective attention to missionaries was often the result of their rules of politeness, as it is a part of the Indian's code. Their councils are eminent for decorum, and no person is interrupted during a speech. Some Indians, after respectfully listening to a missionary, thought they would relate to him some of their legends, but the good man could not restrain his indignation, but pronounced them foolish fables, while what he told them was sacred truth. The Indian was, in his turn, offended, and said, we listened to your stories, why do you not listen to ours? you are not instructed in the common rules of civility.....

..... A hunter, in his wandering for game, fell among the back settlements of Virginia, and on account of the inclemency of the weather, sought refuge at the house of a planter, whom he met at the door. He was refused admission. Being both hungry and thirsty, he asked for a bit of bread and a cup of cold water. But the answer to every appeal was, " You, shall have nothing here, get you gone you Indian dog! "
Some months afterwards this same planter lost himself in the woods, and after a weary day of wandering, came to an Indian cabin, into which he was welcomed. On inquiring the way and distance to the settlement, and finding it was too far to think of going that night, he asked if he could remain. Very cordially the inmates replied, that he was at liberty to stay, and all they had was at his service. They gave him food, they made a bright fire to cheer and warm him, and supplied him with clean deer- skin for his couch, and promised to conduct him the next day on his journey. In the morning the Indian hunter and the planter set out together through the forest, when they came in sight of the white man's dwelling, the hunter, about to leave, turned to his companion, and said, "Do you not know me?" The white man was struck with horror, that he had been so long in the power of one whom he had so inhumanly treated, and expected now to experience his revenge. But on beginning to make excuses, the Indian interrupted him saying, "when you see a poor Indian fainting for a cup of cold water, don't say again, 'get you gone, you Indian dog.'" and turned back to his hunting grounds. Which best deserved the appellation of a Christian, and to which will it most likely be said, "Inasmuch as ye have done it unto the least of these, ye have done it unto me."

[ozzycriss]

You will never get a true history from most books . You see the Author =Authorised . He or she is writing an authorised version . Ever wonder why when you read about the jolly old kings of england , you know they many have slaughtered a million people but they where basicly great jolly old fellows . Would one who is getting payed to write a history of someone who can loop your head off write a true history . No way , you gloss it over , you write an authorised version , they have the good guy , the evil doers etc . .

I was talking to my cousins wife who was reading a history of henry the 8th , and i tryed to explain that it was most likly mainly rubbish . But she has seen the hollywood tales and had rubbish pumped into her head at school ect . Most people truly think that what is dished up to them is reality , and anyone who dares even questioning the authorised version of history ect is a crazy person and totaly nutcase .

This is why we have the saying that someone is level headed , there saying your a block head or your reality has been placed in a neat little box . The box = the blockhead/levelheaded , you can 't escape the flat walls roof etc . Someone that is levelheaded thinks and acts in a liner fashion = straight lines . Someone who thinks liner can't move around a wall or think outside there box .

Most people live and die and never understand very basic concepts that are right in there face , in the words , in the real history etc .The education system is there to make sure from and early age one thinks in a liner fashion and never see or understand basic concepts of human nature , control etc etc . You see true knowledge is power and anyone who has real knowledge can be a very dangerous person to those that create all the little boxs made for us . So they make sure most people never get a grasp of the systems , ancient historys .

The russian have a word that basicly means read between the lines . There paper are so full of propoganda thay have to piece it toghter . Same goes for australia , you have to piece this toghter for yourself . People 100 years back understood who owned the media , its power etc and where always weary . But those at the top fully undertsnad how gone most people are psychosociology as comepared to say those 100 years back .Its all out there for those that want to aquire real knowledge , you can choose to know, but most people will choose not to know .

You see they put traps out there for you like sports , trivia , hollywood on and on . The ancient romans lay it all out how it works and is designed to control the masses of public . A small example is around 100 years back the big players started to write that they where going to build all these huge sports arenas around the world . People thought what the hell for , and scratched there heads . They payed teams of men lots of cash to play with a ball , Something children do , something a mature adult should grow out of . The teams represent the mans tribe , he projects himself onto the team , . So you now have grown men waving there tribes flag , wearing there tribes jumper , screaming like bafoons etc , they never fully mature it fixes them at say 18 years of age . Its to shut them down , stunts them , boxs them up , simple stuff thats well understood by those at the top . Heres a good one to try , its total truth but watch people you tell shut down or get angry . Tell soneone you know thats into football etc that there supporting a multi national compony that pays grown men millions of doller to kick a ball around . There not even supporting a local team/tribe , its the truth but watch the reactions . This itself will give you a good idea of how stunted most people are , they can't/won't even see a plain truth when its right in front of them .

Hollywood creates the myth that indians where killing anyone who moved onto there lands . We have all seen it . you know john wayne fighting off the hordes that only half an hour ago wipped out a wagon train of women and children . Reality is nothing like this , but most people don't live in reality in many ways they do live in a fantasy land thats given to them . Ask a few basicly decent educated people there views on indian history and sit back and listen to the propoganda filled spew you ll get . Ive seen people in australia do the smae thing re the aboriginals , its a very sad thing to see . Not just the vial spew about the aboriginals but that you come to realise most people are never truly awake .

You can go back to Plato 2500 years ago who lays in all out . How the greek state would force all slaves watch the actors/stars who put on the large shows. You navigate by the stars so they create stars/actors for you to follow . People see the stars as the winners , so they emulate them . The ancient greeks did nt want to entertain there slaves , they where basicly downloading them . Its an ancient science well understood , you then have people acting , reacting in certain ways , you even had them dressing how you want them too . Culture comes from the top it is given to us thru entertainment , music , books etc etc , so those that know and control all this dictate to the bulk of people on many and most levels . Most people are oblivious to whats going on , they truely think there individuels , but there composites of there indoctronation .

So knowing this it was and is very easy to demonize the indians or the modern arabs ( notice there the new devils knocking at the gates ) . You run propoganda , songs , posters , storys in papers of the time . They even funded plays etc showing the demon head hunting scalp collecting red devils , just to make sure the public got it . Its simple stuff if you understand the formula , If you run the formula in the correct order it ll work everytime , it has worked from ancient times its still working quite well .

justice comes from the word joust , . Two knights go onto the field to defend you and me , because we are to stupid to do it ourselves . Law is nt there for you and me its to maintain the system of the controlers . Common law = harm and loss what you and me care about . But they created staute/acts to rule over us , with words that speak in forked tounge .

There are many levels to this , but i ve ranted long enough . Hope you may have got something from this , i ve gone all over the map i know .

[aneaglesangel]

At the moment, I'm very angry at our government, but it has nothing to do with what we've done to the Red People. It has more to do with what is happening now. I feel as if we are being sold out for the rich people, who really control the world. If I had my way, I'd gather troops and storm Washington, D.C......but that's a whole 'nother bag of worms....

I've always felt as if the histories of this part of our beginning were written out of guilt. How could we just obliterate people and call ourselves "Christians"? (Which was very important back then, you know what happened to people who didn't follow the "right" religion.) So, if we called them dirty savages, or blood thirsty killers, we were of course, in the right. And no one wants to be wrong, so the next thing you know, everyone believes the false history, even the ones who were there and know better. Now, I can even understand it in a way. This was many years ago. People didn't know as much as they do today. They also feared more than God, for if you didn't stick to the program, then you just might find yourself swinging on the end of a rope. Maybe some of the people who were here at the time knew the truth, but were too afraid to speak it.

So, older writings I can understand, I've had some time to think it over. At the time that I wrote this, I was very angry and moved by what I read of the Wampanoags. For I saw them in a different light. How can you hate a 300 year old ghost that was treated so unfairly by people of your skin color, who calls you "keetompoag" which means "friend, kinsman?" How can you believe that the ghost that when looking into his eyes, you saw only wisdom, understanding, and a caring you never expected? I don't know how anyone of our age could see these people for anything other than what they were. Spiritual beings with a whole different outlook on the world, life, honor. But I know the people back then feared them. Hated them. Reviled them. Misunderstood them. So in the end, what do people do with things they fear? Like the boy and the spider, they destroy them without thinking about it much at all. Squash! You're gone!

So I can't say that I like some of the things I read about the Wampanoag, and I've learned to go to different sources now that I find much more delectable. But now I can look at them with a different eye. A jaded eye maybe, but an eye that understands what it is looking at. The very darkest side of human nature is what I read when I peruse the old writings abou6t the war and the people involved in it. For now I realize how the people saw them. They were a threat to what they wanted. They were unknown, they were frightening. And people did what they do best. They destroyed what was in the way of what they wanted, and then they told themselves they did it for all the RIGHT reasons. If there were no right reasons, well hell, they made them up.

So even though it is very hard to find a fair account of the war, which tells the story from both sides, there are still facts that cannot be denied. Where the battles occurred. When they happened and who was involved. The rest, I can make up. I can imagine. I can't explain it, but one night, a Wampanoag hand touched me. A hand that was over 300 years old, and had seen all the ages in between. No matter how much hatred and prejudice he had faced and seen over those years, he could still reach out to me. Then, when I speculated if it had really been the great War Sachem (Chief) Anawan himself who I had seen that first night out and a voice answered, "I'm here, dear!" I knew that there was more to the story. I felt it.

So I hope when I'm finally done with my research, and I begin to write "Dark Dawn" that what I feel in my heart about them, what I was shown, with a simple look, a simple touch, a simple voice, spoken to me through the distance of many dimensions and years, shines through. And that everyone who reads it will feel the true heart of a people almost lost. Just as I did those nights when I met the spirits of the Wampanoag tribe!